Rose Canyon Examiner
Researcher: William H East 

This website will be updated as additional information becomes available


 

 

Show & tell all of Rose  Canyon.

Railroad property is a large part of the bottom of the canyon.

Large parts of the creek bed are choked with a high level of brush.  Acacias and other plants overpopulate in the runoff.

The canyon sides and ridges are covered with very flammable thick brush.

There are many branching dead-end streets at the top of the canyon.

Click on thumbnails to get the larger images.

   

Military base museum on Miramar Rd.

The spur railroad on the base start about 4/5 of a mile west of I-15.  

Large number of aircraft

 

 

The main track continues around the southeast edge of the Miramar National Cemetery.

Wastewater Mgt. used heavy equipment to dig up, unplug and then cover up the sewer line.  When they left, they took the pumps with them, but left the above ground sewer line connected.  

 Rose Creek Headwaters

  Sewage surface line

One month later they were back with new pumps.

Sewer repaired

Rose Creek junk

 

 

   

Pampas after heavy rain

   

 

During a heavy rain the rushing water overflows the stream bed and populates the canyon with Pampas grass, Eucalyptus, Acacia and Poison Oak seeds.  Each Pampas plant produces about 100,000 seeds.  These seeds usually germinate first and smother other seedlings.

 

The bridge is a hangout for student uses of the canyon.  Trespassing on railroad property for any purpose is prohibited and dangerous.  Over 50 trains pass each day.  The risk is very great for those crossing the tracks. 

 

 

View from high school soccer field

Teen hangout under Genesee bridge

Periodically volunteers remove large items like auto parts

Eucalyptus overgrowth

Front wheel assembly

Trees next to the high school could block the Genesee Ave. if caught on fire

Creosote-treated crossties dumping area

Normally heavy traffic backup

The tunnel entrances have become dumping grounds for pets, furniture, auto parts and shopping carts.  One to two feet of clay and gravel have settled in the bottoms of the tunnels.  The movement of the shopping carts (half a mile downstream) indicates the velocity of runoff when it exits the tunnels.  

Sidewalk above Genesee tunnels

Center tunnel under Genesee

During the summer the spiders, mosquitoes and stench (from the pools of stagnant water) are very bad. 

Shopping carts to be delivered during the next heavy rain

Quick disposal

Vehicle access to the canyon is limited to Wastewater Management, and only they have the keys.

A trail from the traffic light at the intersection of Genesee Avenue, the High School access and Rose Canyon passes by a very hazardous area.  It is about a 10 foot drop into the entrance to the stream tunnels.  

 

The only bridge on Rose Canyon

Bobcats kill deer and can both swim and climb trees, and they hunt at night.

Poison Oak along the sewer maintenance road

Poison Oak bobcat haven

The debris field between Genesee Avenue and Regents Road is a flat area where items moved downstream by heavy runoff settle.  Acacias trap the larger items.  

Rose Creek runoff

Old Sycamore

Some of the oils and smaller items are filtered by the grasses.

Bottles and cans pose a fire hazard

Two more carts in a debris field

Acacias, Eucalyptus and Pampas are being populated by Rose Creek The developing areas of Poison Oak and Pampas grass are ideal habitats for Bobcats. The Bobcats have appetites for small animals, and birds.  

A manhole for wastewater sewer maintenance

Stagnant pool west of Genesee bridge

 Domestic pets are abandoned at the canyon rims.

 Rose Canyon dog visitor

 Sorry I disturbed you

 

Many things were dumped at the end of Genesee Avenue before it was completed.  Now the canon ends of Regents Road are dumping sites for large items. 

Dead grass near maintenance road

  

Regents Road on south side of canyon

Proposed Regents Rd. bridge site 

 

 

University City softball fields

Eastgate Mall Bridge over I-805

The Eastgate bridge design was proposed for the Regents Road bridge.

Eastgate Mall arch bridge - constructed 1971-5

San Jacinto Bridge

   

   
   

- The drive-around -

   

 

 Standley Park on Governor Dr.

Curie Elementary School

Spreckels Elementary School

Traffic is very heavy on Governor Drive.

Standley Park area 3 - east of Spreckels

  Standley Park next to Standley Middle School

The Regents Road traffic is also routed by the high school.

Standley Park area 1 - east of Spreckels

 Standley Middle School - northeast end

Remainder of cattle fence near Regents Rd. bridge

Rose Canyon matted hillside grass

 Hazardous crossing after heavy rain

Offroaders find a way

 

 Acacia in stream bed

 Rose Canyon abandoned sewer line

 Santa Fe trail to La Jolla Colony Dr.

The Sorrento Valley intersection is very similar to the one planned for Gilman Drive and interstate 5.

Major intersection at Sorrento Valley Rd.

Another view of the major intersection

Model from intersection at Sorrento Valley

Governor Dr. trail to Gilman Dr. 

 

San Clemente Canyon joins Rose Canyon 

Maintenance / Evacuation route for Santa Fe St.

Building at north end of Santa Fe St.

Well maintained light industry

Rose Creek drainage channel

Northeast corner of I-5 and I-8

 

Looking up at Monongahela St.

Monongahela St. homeowner's backyard

Over 40 years ago, the sewer system and Genesee dirt bridge were installed.  The motor vehicle and railroad trash were removed.  One can only hope it will not take a disaster for the importance of a another cleanup to be realized.

Monongahela runoff

View across Rose Canyon to Desert View homes

Rose Creek & I-5 intersection

Rose Creek south of Balboa

The debris field extends to the Bay.

Rose Creek near Grand Ave.

Rose Creek near Garnet Ave.

RESTORING THE CANYONS IS A MASSIVE TASK

Rose Creek channel near San Diego bay

Rose Creek at San Diego Bay

 

 

 

(The above map)

The Drive-around 2.6 miles.

 

A brief history of a 9 mile canyon with only one bridge. 

This is the dirt bridge at Genesee and Rose Canyon. 

In the early 70's, many neighbors circulated petitions for completing Standley Park. 

Assessments cost $250 each.  Some paid more, I paid $500.

 

All participants were told that the bridge at Regents Road would soon be completed.  It would support

the traffic to the university and evacuation through University City.  Standley Park would not exist

as a recreational area if there was any indication that the Regents Road bridge would not be built. 

  

Currently there is no useful return from Regents Road, it uses space and contributes very little.

The worst traffic conditions are happening.

 

Any proposed public project should start with searching for the activities of similar projects. 

Full disclosure of these findings is a public trust.

 

 

Similar community action:

City of Tucson

 

In May 2002 the Tucson City Council put a Grade Separated Interchange (GSI) issue on the ballot.  Research by the local Tucson businesses and residents found the references the city gave for a residential GSI were faulty.  The word went out, "We are being used as Guinea Pigs."

 

On the ballot on May 21, 2002, 69 percent voted no to GSIs. 

 

References: Jim Nintzel & Dave Devine, writers for the Tucson Citizen and Tucson Weekly.  Jim Glock - City of Tucson DOT.

 

 

1967-70 Cobbinet - Helen Cobb councilperson

Relevant items major focus, university access

Currently:

1.  Extend Governor Drive east as entrance to trash dump

Permanently tabled

2.  Extend Governor Drive west to Gilman Drive about 4/5 of a mile

Still open

3.  Extend Miramar Road west across interstate 5 to Gilman Drive for the evacuation route

Very unlikely

4.  Extend Regents Road across Rose Canyon to the university

Open item

5.  Extend Genesee Avenue across Rose Canyon

Done

6.  Get signatures and assessment approvals from homeowners for Standley Park

Done

7.  Cut and fill the park area at the northeast corner of Governor Drive and Gullstrand

Very unlikely

 

 

 


 

Rose Canyon Status

 

 

Doing nothing just intensifies the burden on the hosts: the freeways, Genesee Avenue and other routes.

In a disaster, any of these routes may be blocked or closed.

 

 

- Liabilities -

 

The fence for the railroad tracks was a cattle fence to keep cattle off the railroad track.

There is no fence to keep children, pedestrians, or bicyclists off the track.

The danger is there.  The railroad engineers use a horn that can be heard for blocks to notify everyone

on their right of way that a train is coming.  A fence would help alleviate this danger.

During and after a heavy rain, the runoff water rushes down the canyon.  The proof of

this is the location of shopping carts trapped in and around Rose Creek.

 

 

 

- Traffic -

 

The traffic of Regents Road is redistributed continuously to Genesee

and by way of Governor Drive to Genesee. 

I personally saw a girl on a bicycle hit by a car while she was racing a friend on Governor Drive

next to Spreckels Elementary School.  I found out later she had a broken hip.  

There are no guard rails over the tunnels in the dirt part of the bridge.

New residential housing is being constructed along Governor Drive and will add to the traffic.

Not only is there the normally expected traffic from 2 elementary schools and Standley Park on Governor Drive, but 

the traffic of Regents Road is being routed through Governor Drive and Genesee Avenue.  A 2.6 mile drivearound.

 

Unified San Diego County Emergency Services Organization Operation Emergency Plan

listed the county wildfire as a high risk probability.

 

The Cedar Fire in 2003 caused 15 fatalities and closed interstate 15 at 2 locations. 

What will be the impact of the Regents Road gap during an evacuation? 

Where is the evacuation route?

We want a facility that will be for the greater good and be attractive in our community.

 

 

- Evacuation -

 

The San Diego city police and fire department support the construction of the Regents Road Bridge.

The city is liable for the negligence of maintaining and updating Rose Canyon and all evacuation routes.

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

Currently, Marcia Munn and Harry Mathis, with many others, continue to complete Regents Road

for the greater good.
Let's vote on it.

 

 

Send Comments and restoration plan to: examiner@san.rr.com

 

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